Tomorrow's Rifle Today, Or Your Father's Rifle Yesterday?

The 300 Weatherby Magnum

12/4/2022 – It seems there are two camps when it comes to Weatherby firearms and cartridges, which has pretty much been the case since Roy Weatherby started hawking his brand in the 1940s. To some, he was a salesman, flamboyant in the representation of his products. To others, he was selling an exceptional firearm that touched on the future.

As a twelve year old with a Marlin 30-30 WCF deer rifle… my only rifle, I was impressed with what Weatherby had to offer. I read every related article I could get my hands on, visited every local gun shop that had one for sale. I don’t know why. I could not afford one.

It was never the celebrity hunter exploits or movie star friends of Weatherby that were draws. I always thought that was kind of cheesy, which is pretty much the way I feel about celebrities and celebrity endorsements today. I just loved the data and being able to recite the same with other goofy kids with similar interests. The original 30-378 WM experiment in the 1960s was the crowning glory

Weatherbys at that time did not have a good reputation with adult hunters. By reputation, they tended to be less than accurate, slender stocks cracked at the small behind the receiver tang, stock geometry increased muzzle jump and felt recoil, and they were loud. Could have been true. Could also be people who could not afford them expressing envy of others. Could be a little of both.

My personal ownership of Weatherbys did not begin until I entered my fifties. Our children were grown and married, my wife shared an interest in firearms, so why not?

The first was a 257 WM lightweight, followed by a 338-378 WM, followed by a 416 WM. Before the run was done there was a 270 WM, 300 WM, 340 WM, 378 WM, and a 460 WM, all MARK Vs of one configuration or another.

I shot them at the range, hunted with some,, handloaded for all. They were all nicely done, all very accurate, all very reliable, all a twelve year old could hope for, even when passed the age of fifty. Then I sold them all. Today, I own one firearm chambered for a Weatherby cartridge, the 270 WM. It is a custom I built and barreled on a Remington 700 action.

The Weatherby rifles were excellent. I just soured on the company that produces them. Too much cheese, too pretentious, and the rifles somehow became very ordinary… like those made by companies that sell modern commemorative firearms.

Releases like the 6.5-300 WM vs the 6.5 RPM and 338 RPM look like Remington’s old struggle with Ultra Mag versus Short Ultra Mag… jumbo shrimp with performance that follows. People must want them, because they are still selling them.

As something above the typical mass produced sporter, they give people the opportunity to buy a premium product with a $3,500 price tag, which is more manageable to more people, as opposed to paying $10,000 to $20,000 for a European import or a U.S. made custom. So the more power to them.

In any event, what follows is the data from the last 300 Weatherby Magnum Mark V. While it is no longer a handloading routine in the shop, I did not want the information to go to waste. The cartridge remains a popular with skilled hunters and Weatherby enthusiasts. It is an excellent high power 30.

Bullet Selection

Above, 30 caliber bullets with a weight range from 130 to 220 grains. They are all for hunting applications with the exception of the match bullet, second from left. They all work well with the 300 WM. Monolith copper bullets are in there for states that have that restriction. As they appear left to right above, they are listed on the table below top to bottom.

Bullet Brand
Bullet
Type
Bullet
Weight
Grains
Bullet
Length ”
COL ”
Barnes TTSX Copper 130 1.172 3.560
Sierra MatchKing
HPBT 135 1.053 3.545
Barnes TTSX Copper 150 1.300 3.560
Berger VLD Hunting HPBT 168 1.270 3.560
Berger VLD Hunting HPBT 175 1.290 3.560
Barnes TTSX Copper 180 1.480 3.560
Nosler Partition SP 180 1.265 3.520
Sierra Pro Hunter FBSP 180 1.210 3.560
Speer Hot-Cor FBSP 200 1.280 3.560
Hornady ELD-X BTSP 212 1.600 3.560
Hornady ELD-X BTSP 220 1.630 3.560

Warning: Bullet selections are specific, and loads are not valid with substitutions of different bullets of the same weight. Variations in bullet length will alter net case capacity,  pressure and velocity. Primer selection is specific and primer types are not interchangeable. These are maximum loads in my firearms and may be excessive in others. All loads should be reduced by 5% as a starting point for development where cartridges have greater than 40 grains in capacity and 10% for cartridges with less than 40 grain capacity following safe handloading practices as represented in established mainstream reloading manuals. Presentation of these loads does not constitute a solicitation for their use, nor a recommendation.

Cartridge
300 Weatherby Magnum
Firearm Weatherby Mark V
Barrel Length 26.00″
Min – Max Case Length 2.825″ +0.000″/-0.030″
Min – Max Cartridge Overall Length 3.390″ – 3.560″
Primer
LRM
Bullet Diameter 0.3083 +0.000″/-0.003″
Reloading Dies Redding FL
Bullet Type  Bullet Weight
Grains
Net H2O
Grains
Capacity
COL” Powder Type Powder Charge
Grains
MV
fps
ME
ft/lbs
Barnes TTSX #30873 130 90.9 3.560 Reloder 19 86.5 3610 3761
Barnes TTSX #30873 130 90.9 3.560 Reloder 19 88.5 3580 3700
Barnes TTSX #30873 130 90.9 3.560 Reloder 19 86.0 3632 3808
Sierra HPBT #2123 135 93.9 3.545 H4350 84.0 3515 3703
Sierra HPBT #2123 135 93.9 3.545 H4831SSC 89.5 3532 3739
Sierra HPBT #2123 135 93.9 3.545 IMR7828SSC 91.5 3631 3952
Barnes TTSX #30875 150 88.5 3.560 Reloder 22 86.0 3451 3967
Barnes TTSX #30875 150 88.5 3.560 IMR7828SSC 86.0 3464 3994
Barnes TTSX #30875 150 88.5 3.560 Norma MRP 87.0 3483 4040
Berger VLD #30510 168 89.4 3.560 Reloder 22 84.5 3299 4060
Berger VLD #30510 168 89.4 3.560 IMR7828SSC 84.5 3312 4093
Berger VLD #30510 168 89.4 3.560 Norma MRP 85.5 3329 4135
Berger VLD #30512 175 89.5 3.560 Reloder 22 83.5 3239 4076
Berger VLD #30512 175 89.5 3.560 Norma MRP 84.5 3268 4151
Berger VLD #30512 175 89.5 3.560 RS Magnum 90.0 3226 4043
Barnes TTSX #30879 180 85.1 3.560 Reloder 22 81.0 3189 4066
Berger VLD #30512 175 89.5 3.560 IMR7828SSC 80.5 3202 4099
Berger VLD #30512 175 89.5 3.560 Norma MRP 81.5 3220 4144
Nosler Partition #16331 180 88.3 3.520 Reloder 19 79.5 3155 3980
Nosler Partition #16331 180 88.3 3.520 IMR7828 SSC 83.0 3221 4147
Nosler Partition #16331 180 88.3 3.520 Norma MRP 83.0 3202 4097
Sierra Pro Hunter #2150 180 89.7 3.560 Reloder 25 86.5 3223 4151
Sierra Pro Hunter #2150 180 89.7 3.560 Norma MRP 84.0 3224 4153
Sierra Pro Hunter #2150 180 89.7 3.560 RS Magnum 89.5 3182 4047
Speer Hot-Cor #2211 200 88.8 3.560 Reloder 25 83.5 3058 4153
Speer Hot-Cor #2211 200 88.8 3.560 H1000 85.5 3040 4105
Speer Hot-Cor #2211 200 88.8 3.560 RS Magnum 86.5 3023 4059
Hornady ELD-X #3037 212 83.6 3.560 Reloder 25 79.0 2957 4115
Hornady ELD-X #3037 212 83.6 3.560 Norma MRP 77.0 2970 4153
Hornady ELD-X #3037 212 83.6 3.560 RS Magnum 82.0 2929 4038
Hornady ELD-X #3038 220 82.3 3.560 Reloder 25 77.5 2901 4112
Hornady ELD-X #3038 220 82.3 3.560 Norma MRP 75.5 2914 4147
Hornady ELD-X #3038 220 82.3 3.560 RS Magnum 80.5 2877 4042

What does that look like in flight ?

Mid weight range:

Best Zero Results – 168 Grain Berger
Near-Zero – yds. 30 Mid Range – yds. 158
Far-Zero – yds. 280 Max Ordinate – in. +3.0
Point Blank – yds. 299
Best Zero : Range 0 – 500 yards
Yards 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 350 400 450 500
Velocity – fps 3329 3227 3129 3033 2938 2846 2755 2666 2579 2493 2409
Energy – ft.-lbs. 4133 3885 3651 3430 3220 3020 2831 2651 2480 2318 2165
Momentum – lbs-sec 80 77 75 73 71 68 66 64 62 60 58
Path – in. -1.50 0.84 2.35 2.97 2.65 1.32 -1.08 -4.63 -9.40 -15.48 -22.96
Drift – in. 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Time Of Flight – sec. 0.00 0.05 0.09 0.14 0.19 0.24 0.30 0.35 0.41 0.47 0.53

Wow! A 300 yard point blank range, big game power retained through 500 yards, along with a manageable hold over at the same distance. That’s a lot of rifle and a pretty good turn out for a 65+ year old cartridge.

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