The 264 Winchester Magnum... Part II

About hundred years ago, when cars had a maximum speed of twenty miles per hour and teenagers had to share the road with horse drawn produce wagons, people drag raced street driven hot rods for neighborhood pride and maybe a few bucks. I remember a black 1961 Chevy Bel Air bubble top; 348 cubic inch, 350 horsepower  solid lifters, three deuces and a 4 speed. Every Friday night he’d make the loop through Stewart’s drive in restaurant parking lot, trying to hustle a race. Even though none of us had actually witness the car win races, between the resonating rup-rup-rup idle and the car’s attitude and reputation, he had no takers.

One night, we  got to talking about the fastest 348 or 409 Chevy elapse times we had seen at the track… which led us to a more objective conclusion regarding the ’61 Chevy performance potential. So I borrowed my cousin’s 427 cubic inch, 425 horsepower Ford Galaxy, raced the Chevy and beat him by maybe a six or seven car lengths. Wiping out the Ford’s clutch, getting a ticket for “exhibition driving” and ending my street racing career that night were all secondary to the primary lesson – Logic and reason trump reputation any time.

The 264 Winchester Magnum is a cartridge with a reputation, however, in reality it is not a bully, it is not unimaginably fast and it doesn’t eat barrels for breakfast. It is just another overbore cartridge that fits into a  narrow niche between the infamous 257 Weatherby Magnum and exceptionally popular 7mm Remington Magnum.

Cartridge 257
Wby
Mag
264
Win Mag
7mm
Rem Mag
7mm
Rem UM
COL” 3.170 3.340 3.290 3.600
Case Length” 2.549 2.500 2.500 2.850
Body Diameter” 0.512 0.513 0.513 0.551
Rim Diameter 0.531 0.532 0.532 0.534
Case Capacity – Grains 84.0 82.0 82.0 112
SAAMI Max PSI 64k 62k 62k 64k
Bullet Diameter” 0.257 0.264 0.284 0.284
Barrel Burner Index 20.9 19.3 17.9 25.2

I’m sure some gun writers, and owners of the original Winchester Model 70 Westerners, decided to use the 264 Winchester Magnum for prairie dog hunting and fried a barrel or two, but I’d guess it was the combination of bad press and the Remington 7mm Magnum’s heavier bullet weights and flexibility that pretty much laid the 264 Winchester Magnum to rest. Today, with better bullets and a market conditioned to high velocity, smallish bore big game cartridges, the 264 Winchester  Magnum is much more acceptable for its intended purpose; hunting just about anything from Wile E. Coyote to elk and having the ability to do so from a long ways off. Therefore, the 264 Winchester Magnum is a perfect chamber for Remington’s long range shooter, the Sendero.

Insert a gratuitous picture of brass and bullets…

I was pretty excited when this cartridge and rifle combination hit the schedule. To celebrate the occasion, I ordered some Norma brass. I love the stuff; low zinc alloy, nice temper, pierced flash holes, and no water marks. It even smells good. Norma use to carry a sharp price premium, but these days it is comparable in price to most other brands.

Five bullets were initially selected for this exercise. The 100 and 139 nine grain bullets are more suitable for the 6.5×55 Swede or the 260 Remington as they are not designed in anticipation of the high impact velocity of the 264 Winchester Magnum. While they will hold together and probably hole punch coyotes, controlled expansion is probably not in the cards. Still, they are not so bad in this application that they will scream, cough and burst into flames as they leave a gun’s muzzle. At the last minute, UPS showed up and I was able to add two more bullets as noted on the table.

Bullet Type Mfg. # Weight
Grains
Length” COL” Net Case
Capacity
Grains
New*
Net Case
Capacity
Grains
Fired*
Sierra HP 1710 100 0.930 3.150 81.6 84.1
Sierra SP 1720 120 1.086 3.340 82.2 84.7
Nosler Partition 16320 125 1.178 3.340 80.9 83.4
Privi SPBT 264SP139 139 1.200 3.340 80.5 83.0
Hornady SST 26302 140 1.398 3.340 78.1 80.6
Nosler Partition 16321 140 1.295 3.340 79.3 81.8
Woodleigh PP 80A 160 1.380 3.340 78.0 80.6
*Nominal capacity is 82.0 grains. Noted is as measured for new brass and once fired.

The handload data, below, also includes the 140 grain Nosler Partition #16321 and 160 grain Woodleigh PP #80A. Both are good heavier game bullets with ballistic coefficients that don’t undermine the cartridge’s long range potential and both are sturdy enough to stand up to the round’s velocity. For as much as I like the 125 grain Nosler Partition for deer hunting, the 140 grain is more convincing on larger body mass big game. The Woodleigh is a much better bullet for 264 Winchester Magnum applications than a round nose 160 grain bullet intended for lower velocity 6.5mm cartridges.

Twistin’. Twistin’. Twistin’ the night away…

My only concern with bullet selection was that the Woodleigh bullet at 1.380″ in length, compared to a 1.240″ more typical round nose, might tax the rifle’s 9″ twist rate, however, this proved not to be an issue. Most twist rate calculations use bullet length to determine twist rate, where twist rate is an imprecise metaphor for stabilizing RPM. Greenhill’s formula, the most frequently cited for twist rate calculation is fast and easy but, even by Greenhill’s standards, it is limited, probably because it was devised to calculate twist rates of blunt nose, jacketed bullets circa 1873.

*The Greenhill formula does not take into consideration bullet nose or base shape, jacket thickness or type or bullet sectional density. A rule of thumb is that velocities over 2,200 fps require a slightly slower twist than the calculated results and, for velocities over 3,200 fps, twist rates should be reduced by a rate of 1/2 turn for each additional 350 fps above 3,200 fps. Remington’s selection of a 9″ twist appears to be a touch of Remington wisdom and it compromises nothing when it comes to 0.264″ bullet weights. So why not spin the bullet with a 7″ and be done with the issue? Over rotating bullets exacerbate the effects of bullet design and production flaws.

Condition Case
Length”
Shoulder
OD”
Body
OD”
Belt
OD”
New 2.490 0.489 0.508 0.531
New FL Sized 2.490 0.488 0.508 0.531
Fired 2.494 0.494 0.512 0.531
Fired FL Sized 2.497 0.490 0.512 0.531
Drawing 2.500 0.491 0.513 0.532
Fired Case Length pre-trimmed

All of the data that appears on the handload table that follows is predicated on the use of once fired brass and this is not a minor factor. Nominal capacity for the 264 Winchester Magnum is 82 grains. New Norma brass checked at 85.5 grains and once fired Norma brass checked in the 88.0 grain range. That is a lot of differential when a 2.5 grain capacity change could mean a 12,000 PSI swing in pressure with an identical powder charge. Properly managed, the larger capacity case could yield an additional 25 – 40 fps while maintaining safe pressure levels.

Many of the loads listed below out perform mainstream handload manual data by as much as 150 fps of muzzle velocity. It’s not that the loads are materially different, but rather it’s because test barrel length for a universal receiver for this cartridge is typically 24″. All of the chronograph data collected here is from the 26″ barrel Remington Sendero. The original Winchester Model 70 Westerner that launched the 264 Winchester Magnum, also had a 26″ barrel so 26″ barrel data seems appropriate. Cartridges with this type should have a 26″ barrel or too much of their potential will end up in a cloud of unburned smokeless powder. Sure, it’s fun to watch, but…

Net case grain capacity is important, as are cartridge overall length, bullet length and seating depth references, so there is no suggestion of component substitution. It is always wise to initially back off a few percentage points on charges to accommodate any component manufacturing variations that might effect pressure. Hey! What’s the hurry?

 

264 Winchester Magnum
COL and Capacity   Load Data & Performance
Bullet Type Bullet
Weight
C.O.L.
Inches
Case
Grains
Water
  Powder Charge
Grains
Muzzle
Velocity
FPS
Muzzle
Energy Ft/Lbs
Group
Inches
Sierra Varminter HP 1710 100 3.150 78.1   MagPro 75.5 3704 3047 0.8
Sierra Varminter HP 1710 100 3.150 78.1   Re 25 74.0 3681 3009 0.6
Sierra Varminter HP 1710 100 3.150 78.1   IMR7828SSC 71.0 3660 2975 0.8
Sierra Pro Hunter SP 1720 120 3.340 78.7   MagPro 71.5 3390 3062 0.8
Sierra Pro Hunter SP 1720 120 3.340 78.7   Re 25 72.0 3444 3160 0.4
Sierra Pro Hunter SP 1720 120 3.340 78.7   H1000 73.5 3412 3103 0.9
Nosler Partition 16320 125 3.340 77.3   Re 25 70.0 3359 3131 0.6
Nosler Partition 16320 125 3.340 77.3   H1000 71.5 3328 3075 0.6
Nosler Partition 16320 125 3.340 77.3   RS Magnum 73.0 3376 3164 0.9
Privi SPBT 139 3.340 77.0   Re 25 68.0 3200 3161 1.0
Privi SPBT 139 3.340 77.0   H1000 70.0 3244 3248 1.1
Privi SPBT 139 3.340 77.0   RS Magnum 71.0 3226 3211 0.7
Hornady SST 26302 140 3.340 74.6   Re 25 66.5 3185 3153 0.9
Hornady SST 26302 140 3.340 74.6   H1000 67.5 3140 3065 0.7
Hornady SST 26302 140 3.340 74.6   RS Magnum 69.5 3213 3209 0.9
Nosler Partition 16321 140 3.340 75.8   Re 25 67.0 3180 3144 1.0
Nosler Partition 16321 140 3.340 75.8   Retumbo 71.5 3216 3215 0.4
Nosler Partition 16321 140 3.340 75.8   N570 72.5 3246 3276 0.8
Woodleigh PP 80A 160 3.340 74.5   Retumbo 69.5 3047 3298 0.8
Woodleigh PP 80A 160 3.340 74.5   H870 72.6 3054 3313 1.1
Woodleigh PP 80A 160 3.340 74.5   N570 70.0 3095 3403 1.0
26″ barrel length produces significantly higher velocity than 24″ barrel based handload data

Shooting impressions… None left by the recoil pad.

The most notable characteristic of the Remington Model 700 Sendero in this chamber is a lack of recoil. Could be me and the result of years of being pounded like a burger patty by heavyweight magnums, but recoil was not a factor when shooting this rifle. It’s a loud gun and not lacking at all in late afternoon visible multiple foot orange muzzle blast. The Sendero, with heavy barrel contour and target type stock appears to weigh much more than the gun’s actual weight of 8 1/2 lbs; about the same as a rifle length barrel flat top AR-15 or about three quarters of a pound more than a conventional sporter. Hauling it around on shooting data collection days, I didn’t really notice the gun’s weight and it was very comfortable when shooting. Handloading the 264 Winchester round is routine, but the cartridge rifle combination is good enough that care exercised in component selection and assembly is rewarded with improved down range accuracy.

The 264 Winchester Magnum cartridge and the Remington Sendero makes for a unique and purposeful combination and probably closer to the package Winchester should have structured when the cartridge was introduced.

The 264 Winchester Magnum… Part I
The 264 Winchester Magnum… Part II

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