Thompson / Center’s Venerable Contender Pistol in 7-30 Waters Part III

A little smoke and noise to conclude a project...

I have to say, this project really renewed my interest in the Thompson/Center Contender. It reacquainted me with its recreational potential, its usefulness as a hunting firearm, its portability, and its accuracy. Subsequently, my own Contender is out of storage and the subject of a series of related projects that will appear on Real Guns®.

In preparation for this last segment, a Leupold base and rings were installed, along with a Bushnell long eye relief handgun scope. The barrel under the rear metallic sight is drilled and tapped for scope mounts; metallic sight removal is easy and base/rings are an easy install. Using a pistol scope does not come natural to me. I have to get my brain connected to the visuals, I have to work more at muscle control and concentration, but I always rewarded with the way it enhances my reach and accuracy.

A few tweaks to handloads…

Lead tip bullets tend to vary in length, noticeably, even as a result of bouncing around in handling. A bullet comparator uses a stable reference point on a bullet’s jacket to eliminate the lead tip variable. An O.A.L. gauges determines maximum bullet projection from a case, the comparator measures the resulting length from a reliable reference point, a small amount if reduced from that measurement to provide rifling clearance, and the seater die is adjusted to match that dimensional conclusion. The comparator measurement was added to the spec box below.

 

Bullet Type Weight
Grains
Length” Contact
OAL
Length ”
Load
OAL

Length “
0.280″
Comparator
OAL
Sierra Pro-Hunter SPFB 120 0.975 2.810 2.750 2.245
Speer Hot-Cor SPFB 145 1.110 2.790 2.770 2.295
Nosler Ballistic Tip PTBT 150 1.310 2.890 2.870 2.300
Speer Hot-Cor SPFB 160 1.230 2.935 2.915 2.335
Sierra-Game King SPBT 175 1.410 2.885 2.865 2.300

Assembled, they look as they appear below; on the table top to bottom, in the picture left to right. Dies used were Lee Precision full length sizer, seater and collet crimp die, mostly just to keep the case mouth neat.

Powder selections were the best of what was tried, so there is a combination of established as well as newer releases. I found much of the 7-30 Waters mainstream manual data to be a bit dated, however, Speer #15 seems to have the cartridge well covered.

Warning: Bullet selections are specific, and loads are not valid with substitutions of different bullets of the same weight. Variations in bullet length will alter net case capacity,  pressure and velocity. Primer selection is specific and primer types are not interchangeable. These are maximum loads in my firearms and may be excessive in others. All loads should be reduced by 5% as a starting point for development where cartridges have greater than 40 grains in capacity and 10% for cartridges with less than 40 grain capacity following safe handloading practices as represented in established mainstream reloading manuals. Presentation of these loads does not constitute a solicitation for their use, nor a recommendation.

 

Cartridge 7-30 Waters
Firearm T/C Contender G2
Barrel Length 14.00″
Min – Max Case Length 2.040″ +0.000″/-0.020″
Min – Max COL 2.480″ – 2.550″
Primer Remington 9 1/2
Bullet Diameter 0.2845″ +0.000″/-0.0030″
Reloading Dies Lee Precision
Bullet Type  Bullet Weight
Grains
Net H2O
Grains
Capacity
COL” Powder Type Powder Charge
Grains
Muzzle Velocity
fps
Muzzle Energy
ft/lbs
100 YD
3 Shot
Group “
Sierra Pro-Hunter
120 39.8 2.750 AA2520 37.0 2438 1584 0.9
Sierra Pro-Hunter 120 39.8 2.750 AR-Com 34.0 2398 1533 0.8
Sierra Pro- Hunter 120 39.8 2.750 CFE223 38.5 2380 1510 1.2
Speer 145 39.9 2.770 AR-Comp 31.5 2193 1549 1.0
Speer 145 39.9 2.770 Re15 34.5 2165 1510 0.7
Speer 145 39.9 2.770 IMR 748 34.0 2258 1642 1.2
Nosler Ballistic Tip 150 36.6 2.870 AA2520 33.5 2259 1700 0.8
Nosler Ballistic Tip 150 36.6 2.870 Re15 33.5 2115 1490 1.1
Nosler Ballistic Tip 150 36.6 2.870 CFE223 35.0 2209 1626 0.9
Speer 160 38.3 2.915 AA2520 34.0 2220 1751 0.6
Speer 160 38.3 2.915 AR-Comp 31.0 2083 1542 1.2
Speer 160 38.3 2.915 CFE223 35.5 2140 1627 1.0
Sierra 175 35.5 2.865 AA2520 31.0 2027 1597 1.1
Sierra 175 35.5 2.865 Re15 31.0 1906 1412 1.0
Sierra 175 35.5 2.865 CFE223 33.0 2063 1654 1.3

A heavier bullet perspective…

The sole factory load for the 7-30 Waters is 120 grains. My experience with 7mm cartridges; 7mm-08 Rem, 7x57mm Mauser, 7mm Rem Mag and woodland hunting has always led me away from the light end of the 7mm bullet spectrum and onto the middle and heavy weights. What I did find is that many of the bullets I’ve selected for the 7mm Rem Mag work as well when loaded in the significantly lower velocity 7mm-08 Rem and 7x57mm Mauser… which conventional wisdom says is incorrect as these bullets are made to withstand magnum velocity levels.

A 160 grain bullet fired from a 24″ barrel 7mm Rem Mag has a muzzle velocity of approximately 2,900 fps, while the 160 grain bullet from the 14″ barrel 7-30 Waters has a muzzle velocity of 2,220 fps. Fortunately, game is rarely shot at the muzzle and the 7mm Rem Mag is intended to shoot game at a distance, while the Contender and 7-30 Waters are made for more moderate ranges… inside 150 yards within the project’s hypothetical confines. What matters, in terms of a bullet properly expanding, is how fast the bullet is traveling on impact. A bullet that will expand at 400 yards with the 7mm Rem Mag where it is traveling 2,200 fps will expand at 2,000 fps at 100 yards as a bullet from a 7-30 Waters, particularly if a bullet is intended for thin skinned, medium to large size game. The bullets listed on the table above are not made for shooting brown bear with the 7mm Rem Mag; no Nosler Partitions, no Swift A-frames, no Speer Grand Slams.

In Cartridges of the World, the suggestion is made that the 7-30 Waters can not deliver the down range performance of the 30-30 WCF. Winchester 170 grain 30-30 WCF ammunition is listed with a 2,200 fps muzzle velocity from a 24″ SAAMI standard test barrel. The Thompson / Center Contender produces 2,220 fps of muzzle velocity with a 160 grain bullet and the spire tipped Contender bullet better retains performance down range. Optimal trajectory for each was calculated for best zero with a 6″ critical target.

160 Grain 7-30 Waters Vs 170 Grain 30-30 WCF
Yards 0 50 100 150 200 250 300
7-30 Waters Velocity – fps 2220 2145 2071 1999 1929 1860 1792
30-30 WCF Velocity fps 2200 20147 1901 1762 1629 1507 1394
7-30 Waters Energy – ft.-lbs. 1915 1787 1667 1553 1445 1344 1248
30-30 WCF Energy ft-lbs 1827 1582 1364 1171 1002 857 734
7-30 Waters Momentum lbs-sec 56 54 52 50 48 46 45
30-30 WCF Momentum lbs-secs 53 50 46 43 40 37 34
7-30 Waters Path – In. -1.50 1.93 3.46 2.97 0.31 -4.69 -12.20
30-30 WCF Path-In. -1.50 1.78 2.99 1.79 -2.22 -9.51 -20.63

A lighter bullet perspective…

 Some folks like light bullets for the increased muzzle velocity they bring. For me, light bullets don’t seem to offer any advantage over the 160 grain bullet and, in fact, fall short in a number of areas. I am not suggesting there is no place for the lighter side of 7mm bullet weights, but I am suggesting they don’t necessarily fit for deer hunting. other than initially higher velocity, their light weight does not offer sustained higher velocity over 1 160 grain bullet, which means they also do not offer higher kinetic energy or momentum.

 

120 Grain 7-30 Waters
Yards 0 50 100 150 200 250 300
Velocity – fps 2438 2310 2185 2065 1949 1837 1729
Energy – ft.-lbs. 1583 1421 1272 1136 1012 899 796
Momentum – lbs-sec 42 40 37 35 33 31 30
Path – in. -1.50 1.52 2.91 2.47 0.00 -4.76 -12.10

The Thompson/Center Contender in conclusion…

The T/C Contender brings value and flexibility to a hunting firearm and a great deal of potential for the handloader. Coupled with the 7-30 Waters, or anyone of the deer class centerfire cartridges offered, the pistol can generate an extra burst hunting season enthusiasm and some new challenges for even the experienced hunter. For recreational or competitive target work, the Contender is a consistently accurate firearm and capable of shooting over longer distances. It can be purchased as a frame and barrel combination and used for a specific purpose. It can also be purchased as a component of a system with a variety of barrels and stocks added over time as applications develop. Nice gun.

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