The 7x57mm... or 275 Rigby Part II

All I need in a Maine hunting rifle...

11/27/2022 – I don’t particularly care for putting in range time in the winter. No matter what gear I put on, sitting still at a bench results in numb feet, frosty fingers and a face wind burned into leather. Hunting in the cold is a different thing because, with the exception of posting, there is a good deal of movement and exertion. Although being in a tree stand may be challenging. I don’t know, I’m not a tree stand hunter.

I look forward to slogging through butt high snow and frosty winds to change targets and waiting patiently at the bench for breaks in the wind to shoot test groups. Most of all, after a thankful Thanksgiving, I am looking forward to a spiritual Christmas and better fortune in the coming new year. I wish the same for all of you… from Thanksgiving on, not the butt high snow deal.

The Facebookies…

Facebook seems the place for people to answer rhetorical questions. Mostly because those guys look at the pictures and don’t read the articles. Someone described 7mm cartridges as the new upstarts, then went on to say they offer no advantage of proven cartridges, brush hunters prefer heavier slower bullets, and they are more expensive as factory ammo. Okay, let’s see…

The 7x57mm has been with us since 1892, the 275 Rigby since 1907, the 280 Remington since 1957, etc..

The 7mm bullet has a naturally high sectional density and ballistic coefficient which allows them to retain relatively higher velocity and corresponding energy over longer distances than say proportional weight 22, 243, 270, and 30 caliber bullets.

I think the notion that some bullets shoot through brush has been debunked in decades past, as any bullet will be deflected by brush and fundamental hunting rules of safety suggest not shooting animals through cover.

Manufacturer and type for type, 7mm ammo is no more costly than other similar size ammunition, but all of it is outrageously priced… which is why this is a reloading article.

The results are in…

Bullet Bullet
Type
Weight
Grains
Bulllet
Length”
Cartridge
Overall Length ”
Net
Capacity
Grains H2O
Sierra Pro-Hunter FBSP 120 0.970 2.985 56.3
Berger VLD Hunting BTHP 140 1.270 3.065 52.8
Remington Cor-Lokt
PSP 140 1.100 3.000 53.9
Nosler CT BTPT 150 1.310 3.060 51.8
Winchester Power Point
FBSP 150 1.190 2.885 52.2
Speer Hot-Cor
FBSP 160 1.240 3.050 52.6
Remington Cor-Lokt
PSP 175 1.310 3.015 50.8

Some minor revision were made to the table while assembling handloads. All dimensional and all what I would consider trivial.

The 175 grain bullet offered better accuracy than anticipated. The Ruger has a 1:8.5″ twist rather than the more typical 1:9.5″ twist, which stabilizes longer bullets like the Berger and the heavy Remington Cor-Lokt.

Warning: Bullet selections are specific, and loads are not valid with substitutions of different bullets of the same weight. Variations in bullet length will alter net case capacity,  pressure and velocity. Primer selection is specific and primer types are not interchangeable. These are maximum loads in my firearms and may be excessive in others. All loads should be reduced by 5% as a starting point for development where cartridges have greater than 40 grains in capacity and 10% for cartridges with less than 40 grain capacity following safe handloading practices as represented in established mainstream reloading manuals. Presentation of these loads does not constitute a solicitation for their use, nor a recommendation.

Cartridge
7x57mm Mauser*
Firearm Ruger Hawkeye International
Barrel Length 18.5″
Min – Max Case Length 2.235″ +0.0″/-0.020″
Min – Max Cartridge Overall Length 2.850″ – 3.065″
Primer CCI 250 LRM
Bullet Diameter 0.2845″ +0.0″/-0.0030″
Reloading Dies Redding FL
61kpsi, exceeds SAAMI MAP 51kpsi.
Bullet Bullet
Weight

Grains
H2O
Grains
Capacity
C.O.L.” Powder
Type
Charge
Grains
Muzzle
MV
FPS
Muzzle
ME
Ft-Lbs
100 Yard
3 Shot
100 YD

Group “
Sierra Pro-Hunter SPFB 120
56.3
2.985
Re 16
54.0
3202
2736
0.6
Sierra Pro-Hunter SPFB 120 56.3 2.985 Varget 50.9 3104 2567 1.0
Sierra Pro-Hunter SPFB 120 56.3 2.985 CFE 223
54.5 3163 2666 1.2
Sierra Pro-Hunter SPFB 120
56.3 2.985
H 414 55.5 3176 2688 0.8
Berger VDL Hunting BTHP 140
52.8
3.065
 Reloder 16
 49.5  2859  2542 0.7
Berger VDL Hunting BTHP 140
52.8 3.065
 H414  51.0 2842
 2511  0.5
Berger VDL Hunting BTHP 140
52.8 3.065
 Norma URP
 50.0 2822  2475  0.4
Berger VDL Hunting BTHP 140
52.8 3.065
RS Hunter
52.5
2836
2500
 1.0
Remington Core-Lokt PPFB 140
53.9
3.000
 Re 17 51.5 2882 2583 0.7
Remington Core-Lokt PPFB 140 53.9 3.000  Norma 204
52.5 2800 2438 1.0
Remington Core-Lokt PPFB 140 53.9 3.000  RS Hunter
53.0 2828 2486 0.6
Remington Core-Lokt PPFB 140
53.9 3.000
Win 760
51.6 2842 2510 1.2
Nosler CT BTPT  150  51.8  3.060  Reloder 17
 49.5 2789  2592  0.8
Nosler CT BTPT  150  51.8  3.060  Norma URP
49.0
2752  2522 0.9
Nosler CT BTPT  150  51.8  3.060  RS Hunter
 51.0 2742  2505 1.0
Nosler CT BTPT  150  51.8  3.060  Win 760
 49.5 2746  2511 0.8
Winchester PP
150
52.2
2.885
 Reloder 17
 49.0 2780  2574 0.3
Winchester PP
150
52.2
2.885
 H414  49.0 2766  2548  0.9
Winchester PP
150
52.2
2.885
 RS Hunter
 50.5 2734
2489
 0.6
Winchester PP
150
52.2
2.885
 Win 760
49.0
2736
 2494  1.2
Speer Hot Cor SPFB 160
51.8
3.050
Re 16 46.0 2664 2206 1.0
Speer Hot Cor SPFB 160
51.8
3.050
Re 17 48.0 2675 2543 0.7
Speer Hot Cor SPFB 160 51.8
3.050  H414  48.5  2635  2467 1.1
Speer Hot Cor SPFB 160 51.8
3.050 Win 760 46.0 2674
2223
0.9
Remington Core-Lokt PPFB 175 50.8
3.015 Re 16
44.5
2505
2438
0.8
Remington Core-Lokt PPFB 175 50.8 3.015 Re 17
46.0
2535
2497
0.5
Remington Core-Lokt PPFB 175 50.8 3.015  H414  46.0  2499 2426 0.9
Remington Core-Lokt PPFB 175 50.8 3.015 IMR 7828 SSC 55.0 2513 2453 0.6

Conclusions?

Ambient in the shop is 65°F, outside it is 22°F. Plank flooring is cause for aesthetic celebration, cold feet and a small heater running in my desk footwell. So I am cycling between frozen feet and haphazard thaw.

For me, there are loads on the table to cover everything from coyote to Maine moose. Certainly deer and black bear. The little rifle’s form is so comfortable to carry and light in weight. Yes, a bit of recoil, but nothing serious. Yes, a little barky, but that’s OK too.

Funny how a post to social media often leads to a critique. Not sure what makes people believe one person’s preference is an affront to another that must immediately be countered. The 7x57mm and light rifle is a good practical combination. Yes  I am a bit grumpy. It’s 5:30 AM.

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4 Comments

  1. Classy rifle, in my opinion and traditional preferences. Traditional chambering to match the rifle style with tons of history, both military and sporting. That particular combination appears to be very easy to get along with from a reloader’s perspective. Lots of flexibility and great accuracy results across the board with a wide span of bullet weights and powders.

  2. Joe, those are impressive velocities you achieved given the 18.5 inch barrel. I am currently working up some 160 gr Swift A Frame and 175 Nosler Partition loads for my 7×57 (Win Mod 70 w/ 22 inch barrel). You data, as always, is a welcome and useful addition to what I have in reloading manuals. With bullets, powder and primers still hard to come by, it’s good to have good data to help narrow the options quickly.

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      David, want to make sure you saw the notation in the table spec box, these are loaded to 61 kpsi rather than SAAMI 51 kpsi.

      The heavier weights did pretty well with specific powders. Personally, I like them with the 7×57 rather than chasing high velocity with light bullets with a shorter barrel and for woodland hunting.

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