This Panther Arms GII is, in fact, a hunting rifle. Shipped with a 4 round magazine, the capacity is about right for a North American big game rifle and also brings it into compliance with a number of states that limit magazine capacity while hunting. When not hunting, capacity can be bumped to whatever USGI or Magpul P-Mags standard magazines are available; 10, 20, 25 round or even a 50 round drum… if you want to carry 3,076 lbs of ammo.
Four bullets were selected to cover hunting applications from coyote to moose. Nothing fancy, just a sound selection of bullets with a verified reputation and handloads were developed accordingly.
Bullet | Weight Grains |
Length “ | COL “ |
Hornady SP | 130 | 0.938 | 2.690 |
Winchester PP | 150 | 1.046 | 2.730 |
Sierra SPBT | 165 | 1.180 | 2.750 |
Nosler Partition | 180 | 1.265 | 2.800 |
The DPMS Panther Arms GII Hunter is approved for use with either 308 Winchester or 7.62×51 ammunition, the ammo is nominally different. 308 Winchester MAP is 62,000 PSI, the 7.62 NATO is 60,191 PSI with the standards utilizing different test equipment and methods. The 308 Winchester utilizes an external conformal transducer, the 7.62x51mm is checked with a transducer exposed to the inside the cartridge case. The 308 Win, with thinner brass walls and is listed as having 56 grains of H2O capacity compared to the 7.62’s 52.0.
The non-adjustable, direct impingement gas system utilized in these type of firearms represents a bit of a balancing act; buffer weight, action spring, bolt and bolt carrier mass, gas port diameter and location, barrel length, muzzle pressure… Sort of a complicated 1911 that burps. While velocity of indicated handloads vary, predominately tracking to bullet weight, maximum pressures are relatively uniform. No problems were experienced in regard to reliable cycling.
The two stage trigger remained a bit on the heavy side, but devoid of creep and let off was crisp. Recoil was light with all loads. As is the case with most MSRs with a greater than 16″ barrel, the GII feels a little heavy at the forearm and light at the buttstock, but it is comfortable shooting, steady on target and fast handling.
I don’t like the term “cheek weld” when referencing the spatial and or geometric arrangement of buttstock, line of sight and noginal position. It suggests that if your face isn’t clamped to the stock the hold is improper… a condition that would apply to just about every rifle made with open or optical sights since the beginning of firearms… cartridge type or muzzle loading musket. That said, the Panther Arms GII provides proper support and it affords a natural eye – sight alignment.
Performance
The following data table represents the best performance from a population of handloads with a variety of powder types and load densities. As noted previously, they all cycled reliably and I felt the accuracy within this group was very good. Powders tried that yielded larger group sizes were RamShot BigGame, Win 748, IMR 3031. More than likely just the combination of bullets selected and charge density attempted and I don’t believe the GII is finicky. Factory Remington Core-Lokt shot 0.9 to 1.2 regardless barrel temp.
Cartridge: 308 Winchester |
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Rifle: DPMS GII | Max COL: 2.810″ |
Bullet Diameter: 0.308″ | Primer: CCI 200 |
Barrel: 20″ | Reloading Dies: Redding |
Max case length: 2.015″ | Groups: 3 Shot 100 yards |
COL and Capacity | Load Data & Performance | ||||||||
Bullet Type | Bullet Weight |
C.O.L. Inches |
Case Grains Water |
Powder | Charge Grains |
Muzzle Velocity FPS |
Muzzle Energy Ft/Lbs |
Group Size Inches |
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Hornady SP | 130 | 2.690 | 51.1 | Re15 | 51.0 | 3002 | 2602 | 1.2 | |
Hornady SP | 130 | 2.690 | 51.1 | Norma 203B | 50.1 | 2995 | 2589 | 0.9 | |
Winchester PP | 150 | 2.730 | 49.7 | Re15 | 50.2 | 2831 | 2670 | 1.1 | |
Winchester PP | 150 | 2.730 | 49.7 | Norma 203B | 48.0 | 2863 | 2731 | 1.2 | |
Sierra SPBT | 165 | 2.750 | 48.3 | Re17 | 49.0 | 2769 | 2809 | 0.8 | |
Sierra SPBT | 165 | 2.750 | 48.3 | Varget | 45.5 | 2693 | 2657 | 1.1 | |
Nosler Partition SP | 180 | 2.800 | 46.9 | Re17 | 47.0 | 2638 | 2781 | 1.0 | |
Nosler Partition SP | 180 | 2.800 | 46.9 | H414 | 48.5 | 2619 | 2742 | 1.1 |
Because the initial groups were shot from a new barrel, and because I felt we weren’t doing the firearm justice, approximately 100 more rounds were put through the GII, the bolt and bore were scrubbed and groups were reshot this AM. The results were…
COL and Capacity | Load Data & Performance | ||||
Bullet Type | Bullet Weight |
Powder | Charge Grains |
Group Size Inches |
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Hornady SP | 130 | Re15 | 51.0 | 1.0 | |
Hornady SP | 130 | Norma 203B | 50.1 | 0.7 | |
Winchester PP | 150 | Re15 | 50.2 | 1.0 | |
Winchester PP | 150 | Norma 203B | 48.0 | 0.8 | |
Sierra SPBT | 165 | Re17 | 49.0 | 0.8 | |
Sierra SPBT | 165 | Varget | 45.5 | 0.8 | |
Nosler Partition SP | 180 | Re17 | 47.0 | 1.0 | |
Nosler Partition SP | 180 | H414 | 48.5 | 0.9 |
I am sure there is more potential to extract, however, we have to work within time constraints and some of my favorite handloads have taken a a year to nail down. That said, the DPMS Panther Arms GII is an accurate and consistent shooting firearm.
Conclusions… I’ve jumped to a few
The DPMS Panther Arms GII is the first MSR I would actually consider for hunting. For as fun as they are to shoot, the 5.56 MSRs are all too anemic for my preferences, the 6.8 SPC, 30 Remington AR and larger bore cartridges based on the 5.56mm rims diameter and length don’t do much more for me. They are either not much more in power or they have a trajectory like a softball.
The .308 Winchester, and rounds based on the .308 Winchester like the 243 Winchester, 260 Remington, 7mm-08 Remington, offer sufficient power. Unfortunately, they typically come with a weight penalty that doesn’t get even reasonable until barrels are cut back to 16″ and even then they barely break the 8 pound barrier. In addition, the rail is high above centerline, the receivers are oversize and there is a limited pool of accessories to draw from if the owner wants to upgrade. The GII broke all of those barriers with a substantial reduction in weight, a substantial reduction in size and compatibility with key accessories. The rifle got my attention.
Is there something else I would like to see? Sure. I’d like to see the DPMS GII hunting rifle chambered for the 260 Remington, 7mm-08 Remington. A few years ago I would have added to 338 Federal, but I think that one is gone or waving goodbye. Nicely done rifle.
DPMS Panther Arms GII Hunter .308 Part I
DPMS Panther Arms GII Hunter .308 Part II
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